This interesting Mortimer genealogy will most likely reveal the roots of Governor Thomas Dale. Most of the chapters in our research are linked by the following:
Hugh Mortimer (died 1360) = Eleanor
o Hugh Mortimer’s grandfather was John Mortimer who was given as a sub tenant of Sir Humphrey de Bohun. De Bohun’s niece, Sybil de Bohun, was the second wife of the famous old knight, Sir Thomas de la Dale who was the guardian of the heir presumptive of
John Mortimer (subtenant of Humphrey de Bohun)
| Roger Mortimer | Bohun’s niece = Sir Thomas de la Dale
| John Mortimer
| Hugh Mortimer (died 1460) = Eleanor Cornwall = Sir Richard Croft
o Thomas Whittington of
| Hugh Mortimer (died 1460) = Eleanor Cornwall = Sir Richard Croft
| Elizabeth Croft = John Whittington
| Thomas Whittington of Pauntley
| Alexander Whittington | Margaret Whittington = Sir Thomas Throckmorton
| Richard Whittingon Sir Thomas Throckmorton |
| Thomas Whittington (
o From our research, it seemed as if Governor Dale was in some fashion connected to Robert Dudley, the 1st Earl of Leicester. I noted that
| Hugh Mortimer (died 1460) = Eleanor Cornwall = Sir Richard Croft
Thomas (Kinlet) Blount (died 1523) = Ann Croft |
| John Croft (died 1530) | Sir Thomas Blount of Kinlet (
| Elizabeth Croft = Henry VIII
| Henry Fitzroy (
o In 1559, William Dale of
| Alyce Grey = William Knyvett (1440-1515)
| Charles Knyvett
| Lucy Knyvett = Henry Gates (Seamer) | Anne Knyvett = Robert Carr Charles
Elizabeth Carre Kelke | | Robert Carr = Mary Somerset | | Henry, 2nd Worcester
| Mary = Edward Dale
o Elizabeth Kelke led to another observation
Henry VIII = Elizabeth Croft = Robert Carr = Anne Knyvett Charles Somerset, 1st Worcester
| Henry Fitzroy Elizabeth Carre Kelke | | Robert Carr = Mary Somerset | | Henry, 2nd
Edward Dale = Mary Somerset|
o I estimated that Governor Dale was born about 1567. In 1566, a Hugh Dale married Margaret Mortimer, and Margaret appears to be the great granddaughter of Hugh Mortimer and Eleanor Cornwall. The Whittingtons of Mork Lane in Saint Briavels (Dale family), and Lady Dale could both claim similar descent. It was then common for distant cousins to marry.
| Hugh Mortimer (died 1460) = Eleanor Cornwall = Sir Richard Croft
| John Mortimer (died 1504)
| John Mortimer (died 1560), the last of the Mortimers of Chirk Manor.
| Margaret Mortimer = Hugh Dale (married 1566)
o We came across the Mortimer family of Chirk Manor in
o Hugh and Eleanor’s grandson was the last male Mortimer to be associated with Chirk Manor. Queen Elizabeth later awarded it to Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester.
Note: July 7, 2004. by "Chris Phillips" <cgp@medievalgenealogy.org.uk>
The descent of the Mortimers of Tedstone Wafer from Roger Mortimer of Chirk (d. 1326) was discussed here by Jim Weber and Brice Clagett in
October/November last year
And the line - not given by CP vol. 14 but outlined in Brice's post -
Continues down to John Mortimer (d. 1504), whose sister and (in her issue) heir had married Thomas (West), Lord la Warre (d. 1525).
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